Erinyee
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ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/05/21 21:34
Hi,I am lvl 31 right now with 20 points of talent in shadow spec. However when I go to congested zone, like stranglethorn vale, desolace. I keep getting owned by other class who is abt 1-2 lvl lower then me.
Can some high lvl shadow priest give me some advise on how to face various class, Hunter, Warlock with pet, Rouge, Shaman, Warrior etc..? I would alway have my PW:F, Inner Fire, Shadow Protection and PW:S up before engaging..
Hope some high lvl healer can help me in improving my game play experience. Thanks..
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/05/23 23:36
The only advice i can tell you is STOP DYING!!!
Tactocs very depending once wich class you are attacking or is attacking you. Melee oriented you pbviously want to keep at bay and caster oriented you want to keep close to you.
Make sure you always have Vamp embrace on your target and pain on yoru target. Together they do decent damage and work wel as a HOT for ya. With caster based classes try to use daggers because they hit faster and can interupt more (if you have to resort to melee). Dispel and Shield are by far the most powerful tools a priest can have. Make sure to dispel your target ASAP or any time you can, this will eliminate any buufs they have (except from potions). Also dispel any magical debuffs you have on yourself right away. (suggest using grp buttons addon to keep track of this). Everyone knows how powerful shield is. Use mindflay as your source of damage. It is cheap in power and does decent damage.
Making sure you UI set up well is always a good thing too. Make sure you have easy access to those spells you use a lot and almost nearly as easy acces to the other spells. Make sure you have ALL your spells and talents hotkeyed some how (better keybindings addon). Using every tool you have is key to winning.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/05/31 13:36
Open up with a mind blast, the SWP, mind flay, mind flay, mind blast. Shield, regen, fear as needed. Keep the SWP on them at all times, Vamp embrace helps also if you have it. Your SWP will do most of the work you goal is to survive and keep them away from you using mind flay or fear. If your not causing damage to them every second your going to die. You can never let up.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/05/31 13:37
Open up with a mind blast, the SWP, mind flay, mind flay, mind blast. Shield, regen, fear as needed. Keep the SWP on them at all times, Vamp embrace helps also if you have it. Your SWP will do most of the work you goal is to survive and keep them away from you using mind flay or fear. If your not causing damage to them every second your going to die. You can never let up.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/06/02 08:22
Sulgrim wrote:
Shield, regen, fear as needed. .
Kind of hard to do if you are in shadow form. And suggeststing to start with mindblas right off the bat is not a great idea. It is a mana hog. You have to remember that a shaodow talent priest will not regen power like a disc priests, so watching you mana cunsumption is a must.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/06/08 08:58
Warrior - Deal as much damage as fast as you can. Shadowform actually helps here. Drop out of form if you get low, and heal yourself (preferably after fearing and starting a heal).
Paladin - Mana Burn will be your friend. Alternate between your nukes, and keep Silence and Fear available to shut down their heals.
Hunter - Should be a joke, unless they're really good. If they know how to use Viper Sting, just /pray for the end.
Druid - Will only defeat you if they can out-last your mana pool. Keep Silence and Fear ready to prevent heals.
Rogue - Once you're out of stunlock, it's a simple question of getting a little breathing room. If you can get an effective fear, that will give you enough maneuverability to get your DoT and your nuke off.
Mage - DoT, then Silence, then nuke. Move in early to try and fear, if you get the opportunity. Blackout procs are likely to rule for you. Shouldn't be a problem unless they get a wicked crit on you after using PoM.
Warlock - haha.
Shaman - This varies a lot. Only good shaman will truly rock you. Most people's criticism of the Shaman's strength comes from their value in group PvP (where, to be perfectly honest, Paladins are as good, if not better... auras/blessings/healing/tanking? shit, son!). Use your shield often, and use your Dispel, Silence, and Fear liberally. Mana Burn will help you hugely, because Shaman generally have limited mana pools (function of mail armor...).
Other Priests - Classes vs. themselves always comes down to spec and skill. 'nuff said.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/06/23 19:22
Chiefstingy wrote:
Kind of hard to do if you are in shadow form.
He's in his 30's. He has no shadowform to worry about.
If you aren't spotted, I would suggest starting off with a smite, seeing as how it has the longest cast time. Your best friends will be dispell (on your target and yourself), shield, and self heals (both HOT's and flash). These techniques are rarely used by priests that are new to pvp, but I assure you that they are essential. First aid can also help out a lot, especially if used while your enemy is feared.
If you are feeling vindictive you could even get some aggro from any surrounding mobs and use fade to pass it along to your foe  (note: this is pretty mean)
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/06/27 00:52
Thx for all the comments.. Currently lvl 50. And i fare better in PvP now.. 
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/06/27 10:20
I took on 4 level 60 Horde today at EPL... got two of them (the rogue and the warlock) before the two warriors got me. I think I'm getting better, too.
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Re:ShadPriest Vs All Classes - 2005/07/19 21:43
Timing is everything in PvP... Practice your timing, know where all of your skills and spells are located on your hotbar(s) and how they work.
Know your enemy: Like Fox said above, it's a different kettle of fish for every class... Personally I find PvP pretty easy against most classes simply because I can whittle both their health and mana down whilst keeping my own HP topped up with Vamp and shield. The only problems I have is against shamans... I can never see their bloody totems 
Hunters are probably the easiest class to start on at your level. Hunter pets are durable and strong. Hunters do good DPS but take damage like old ladies... Simply fear the pet and put the hurt onto said Hunter with everything you've got, while a shield is up to avoid bow interrupts. Be careful with FD - It automatically un-targets the Hunter, and if their pet is whacking you you can end up dropping a couple of nukes uselessly on them without realising.
I've never fought another warlock 1 vs 1, but I can imagine the same applies!
Pallies are easy when you know how. Keep a shield up so if they manage to stun you they can just work off some steam while it wears down. Use fear and silence to keep them from healing themself and simply keep the DPS/Manaburns up to stop them using their skills.
Mages are annoying if played well, and you don't have a PvP trinket to dispell Poly. Start from as far away as possible, silence then imediately then Mind Blast, Vamp, Pain, Flay. Once this is done get close and use Fear and Flay = Dead Mage. This is one situation where I've found manaburn simply doesn't help - Mages are not durable and they have huge mana pools - it's better simply to attack their HP.
Warriors are resonably easy once you've got over the initial charge/stun. Keep your own HP topped up and whittle them down with Vamp/Pain/Flay, sticking in the odd nuke thenever possible. When you get Shadowform, this will be especially useful since it mitigates quite a bit of damage.
I've not fought too many druids, but those I have tend to completely over-rely on their Bear form... If you can get a druid to bear, you're laughing. They can't heal and although they have nice HP and AC deal terrible damage. Simply shield and hit them with everything you have. They'll quickly come up for air to heal themselves - Silence, nuke, fear, flay, done!
I've also not fought many rogues. I've won and lost fairly evenly with these; Winning generally involves just trying to keep them DoTted and reducing in health while keeping my own topped up. Don't die is the only real advice I can impart here
Shamans I can't fight... Seriously, I have some kind of block. If you see me running like a coward from a shaman, remember the advice I've given out and kill the bugger for me
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